>Sender: >To: >X-Original-Message-ID: <002901bf09b4$43b4aa20$9acf69cf@pacbell.net> >From: "Peter McWilliams" >Subject: The faith of our fathers >Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 06:20:42 -0700 >X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 >X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 > > >Dear Sheriff McDougal, > >You are obviously in a great deal of pain, and it grieves me to see you >such. Kindly read my words, from a fellow Irishman, with the sincere desire >to ease your suffering with which they are intended. You are struggling with >inaccurate historical facts combined with an interpretation of God that I do >not believe is shared by the person who you, as a Catholic, consider the >ultimate living spiritual authority, Pope John Paul II. > >Where on earth did you get the notion that the Founding Fathers shared your >religious views? In the first place, you must acknowledge that none of them >were Catholic. Secondly, none of them were even Bible-believing Christians. >They were, in fact, Deists. This is an accepted, historical fact. To quote >from the Encyclopedia Britannica [full text of the entry at the end of this >letter]: > >"By the end of the 18th century, Deism had become a dominant religious >attitude among intellectual and upper class Americans. Benjamin Franklin, >the great sage of the Colonies and then of the new republic, summarized in a >letter to Ezra Stiles, president of Yale College, a personal creed that >almost literally reproduced Herbert's five fundamental beliefs. The first >three presidents of the United States also held Deistic convictions, as is >amply evidenced in their correspondence." > >If you find the Encyclopedia Britannica too contaminated by "liberals," I >suggest you contact any historian who is an expert on the religious beliefs >of the Founding Fathers. There are many views of God, but there is only one >history. > >The Founding Fathers, as Deists, would differ profoundly with your >interpretation of God and His will: > >"The Deists were particularly vehement against any manifestation of >religious fanaticism and enthusiasm. In this respect Shaftesbury's Letter >Concerning Enthusiasm (1708) was probably the crucial document in >propagating their ideas. Revolted by the Puritan fanatics of the previous >century and by the wild hysteria of a group of French exiles prophesying in >London in 1707, Shaftesbury denounced all forms of religious extravagance as >perversions of true religion. These false prophets were directing religious >emotions, benign in themselves, into the wrong channels. Any description of >God that depicted his impending vengeance, vindictiveness, jealousy, and >destructive cruelty was blasphemous. Because sound religion could find >expression only among healthy men, the argument was common in Deist >literature that the preaching of extreme asceticism, the practice of >self-torture, and the violence of religious persecutions were all evidence >of psychological illness and had nothing to do with authentic religious >sentiment and conduct. The Deist God, ever gentle, loving, and benevolent, >intended men to behave toward one another in the same kindly and tolerant >fashion." > >I'm afraid it was precisely to keep such extreme views as yours from >becoming public policy that the Founding Fathers built, as Jefferson >phrased it, "a wall of separation" between church and state. You will soon >learn about this wall of separation when you are forced to remove your >religious beliefs from a state-sponsored web page. > >Frankly (and I'm sorry I cannot find a softer way of saying this), your >ignore-ance of history and your failure to acknowledge the absolute power of >God has you between a rock and a hard place. The rock--the constitutional >separation of church and state--will not change, as you will soon learn when >you are forced to remove your religious beliefs from a state-sponsored web >page. Since the rock will not change, I suggest, then, that you alter your >hardfast interpretation of God's will, for only in that way will the hard >place become a warm embrace. > >It is not God's will, but your own, that the "perverse" world is refusing to >follow. Is your God omnipotent or not? Unless you believe in a pathetically >impotent God, then, truly, if He wanted things to be the way you want them >to be, He could easily make them so. To believe otherwise is the profoundest >form of atheism. > >Might I suggest you show your "wake up" letter, and this letter, to your >priest and see what he has to say? > >Most sincerely, > >Peter McWilliams >peter@mcwilliams.com > >=============== > > >From the Encyclopedia Britannica: > >Deism; an unorthodox religious attitude that found expression among a group >of English writers beginning with Edward Herbert (later 1st Baron Herbert of >Cherbury) in the first half of the 17th century and ending with Henry St. >John, 1st Viscount Bolingbroke, in the middle of the 18th century. In >general it refers to what can be called natural religion, the acceptance of >a certain body of religious knowledge that is inborn in every person or that >can be acquired by the use of reason, as opposed to knowledge acquired >through either revelation or the teaching of any church. (See Bolingbroke, >Henry Saint John, 1st Viscount, Baron Saint John of Lydiard Tregoze.) > >Nature and scope > >Though an initial use of the term occurred in 16th-century France, the later >appearance of the doctrine on the Continent was stimulated by the >translation and adaptation of the English models. The high point of Deist >thought occurred in England from about 1689 through 1742, during a period >when, despite widespread counterattacks from the established Church of >England, there was relative freedom of religious expression following upon >the Glorious Revolution that ended the rule of James II and brought William >and Mary to the throne. Deism took deep root in 18th-century Germany after >it had ceased to be a vital subject of controversy in England. > >At times in the 19th and early 20th centuries, the word Deism was used >theologically in contradistinction to theism, the belief in an immanent God >who actively intervenes in the affairs of men. In this sense Deism was >represented as the view of those who reduced the role of God to a mere act >of creation in accordance with rational laws discoverable by man and held >that, after the original act, God virtually withdrew and refrained from >interfering in the processes of nature and the ways of man. So stark an >interpretation of the relations of God and man, however, was accepted by >very few Deists during the flowering of the doctrine, though their religious >antagonists often attempted to force them into this difficult position. >Historically, a distinction between theism and Deism has never had wide >currency in European thought. As an example, when encyclopaedist Denis >Diderot, in France, translated into French the works of Anthony Ashley >Cooper, 3rd earl of Shaftesbury, one of the important English Deists, he >often rendered "Deism" as théisme. The term is not in current usage as a >metaphysical concept, and its significance is really limited to the 17th and >18th centuries. > >The English Deists > >In 1754-56, when the Deist controversy had passed its peak, John Leland, an >opponent, wrote a historical and critical compendium of Deist thought, A >View of the Principal Deistical Writers that Have Appeared in England in the >Last and Present Century; with Observations upon Them, and Some Account of >the Answers that Have Been Published Against Them. This work, which began >with Lord Herbert of Cherbury and moved through the political philosopher >Thomas Hobbes, Charles Blount, the Earl of Shaftesbury, Anthony Collins, >Thomas Woolston, Matthew Tindal, Thomas Morgan, Thomas Chubb, and Viscount >Bolingbroke, fixed the canon of who should be included among the Deist >writers. In subsequent works Hobbes usually has been dropped from the list >and John Toland included, though he was closer to pantheism than most of the >other Deists were. Herbert was not known as a Deist in his day, but Blount >and the rest who figured in Leland's book would have accepted the term Deist >as an appropriate designation for their religious position. Simultaneously, >it became an adjective of opprobrium in the vocabulary of their opponents. >Bishop Edward Stillingfleet's Letter to a Deist (1677) is an early example >of the orthodox use of the epithet. > >In Lord Herbert's treatises five religious ideas were recognized as >God-given and innate in the mind of man from the beginning of time: the >belief in a supreme being, in the need for his worship, in the pursuit of a >pious and virtuous life as the most desirable form of worship, in the need >of repentance for sins, and in rewards and punishments in the next world. >These fundamental religious beliefs, Herbert held, had been the possession >of the first man, and they were basic to all the worthy positive >institutionalized religions of later times. Thus, differences among sects >and cults all over the world were usually benign, mere modifications of >universally accepted truths; they were corruptions only when they led to >barbarous practices such as the immolation of human victims and the >slaughter of religious rivals. > >In England at the turn of the 17th century this general religious attitude >assumed a more militant form, particularly in the works of Toland, >Shaftesbury, Tindal, Woolston, and Collins. Though the Deists differed among >themselves and there is no single work that can be designated as the >quintessential expression of Deism, they joined in attacking both the >existing orthodox church establishment and the wild manifestations of the >dissenters. The tone of these writers was often earthy and pungent, but >their Deist ideal was sober natural religion without the trappings of >Catholicism and the High Church in England and free from the passionate >excesses of Protestant fanatics. In Toland there is great emphasis on the >rational element in natural religion; in Shaftesbury more worth is ascribed >to the emotive quality of religious experience when it is directed into >salutary channels. All are agreed in denouncing every kind of religious >intolerance because the core of the various religions is identical. In >general, there is a negative evaluation of religious institutions and the >priestly corps who direct them. Simple primitive monotheism was practiced by >early men without temples, churches, and synagogues, and modern men could >readily dispense with religious pomp and ceremony. The more elaborate and >exclusive the religious establishment, the more it came under attack. A >substantial portion of Deist literature was devoted to the description of >the noxious practices of all religions in all times, and the similarities of >pagan and Roman Catholic rites were emphasized. > >The Deists who presented purely rationalist proofs for the existence of God, >usually variations on the argument from the design or order of the universe, >were able to derive support from the vision of the lawful physical world >that Sir Isaac Newton had delineated. Indeed, in the 18th century, there was >a tendency to convert Newton into a matter-of-fact Deist--a transmutation >that was contrary to the spirit of both his philosophical and his >theological writings. (See rationalism, teleological argument.) > >When Deists were faced with the problem of how man had lapsed from the pure >principles of his first forebears into the multiplicity of religious >superstitions and crimes committed in the name of God, they ventured a >number of conjectures. They surmised that men had fallen into error because >of the inherent weakness of human nature; or they subscribed to the idea >that a conspiracy of priests had intentionally deceived men with a "rout of >ceremonials" in order to maintain power over them. > >The role of Christianity in the universal history of religion became >problematic. For many religious Deists the teachings of Christ were not >essentially novel but were, in reality, as old as creation, a republication >of primitive monotheism. Religious leaders had arisen among many >peoples--Socrates, Buddha, Muhammad--and their mission had been to effect a >restoration of the simple religious faith of early men. Some writers, while >admitting the similarity of Christ's message to that of other religious >teachers, tended to preserve the unique position of Christianity as a divine >revelation. It was possible to believe even in prophetic revelation and >still remain a Deist, for revelation could be considered as a natural >historical occurrence consonant with the definition of the goodness of God. >The more extreme Deists, of course, could not countenance this degree of >divine intervention in the affairs of men. > >Natural religion was sufficient and certain; the tenets of all positive >religions contained extraneous, even impure elements. Deists accepted the >moral teachings of the Bible without any commitment to the historical >reality of the reports of miracles. Most Deist argumentation attacking the >literal interpretation of Scripture as divine revelation leaned upon the >findings of 17th-century biblical criticism. Woolston, who resorted to an >allegorical interpretation of the whole of the New Testament, was an >extremist even among the more audacious Deists. Tindal was perhaps the most >moderate of the group. Toland was violent; his denial of all mystery in >religion was supported by analogies among Christian, Judaic, and pagan >esoteric religious practices, equally condemned as the machinations of >priests. > >The Deists were particularly vehement against any manifestation of religious >fanaticism and enthusiasm. In this respect Shaftesbury's Letter Concerning >Enthusiasm (1708) was probably the crucial document in propagating their >ideas. Revolted by the Puritan fanatics of the previous century and by the >wild hysteria of a group of French exiles prophesying in London in 1707, >Shaftesbury denounced all forms of religious extravagance as perversions of >true religion. These false prophets were directing religious emotions, >benign in themselves, into the wrong channels. Any description of God that >depicted his impending vengeance, vindictiveness, jealousy, and destructive >cruelty was blasphemous. Because sound religion could find expression only >among healthy men, the argument was common in Deist literature that the >preaching of extreme asceticism, the practice of self-torture, and the >violence of religious persecutions were all evidence of psychological >illness and had nothing to do with authentic religious sentiment and >conduct. The Deist God, ever gentle, loving, and benevolent, intended men to >behave toward one another in the same kindly and tolerant fashion. > >Deists in other countries > >Ideas of this general character were voiced on the Continent at about the >same period by such men as Pierre Bayle, a French philosopher famous for his >encyclopaedic dictionary, even though he would have rejected the Deist >identification. During the heyday of the French Philosophes in the 18th >century, the more daring thinkers--Voltaire among them--gloried in the name >Deist and declared the kinship of their ideas with those of Rationalist >English ecclesiastics, such as Samuel Clarke, who would have repudiated the >relationship. The dividing line between Deism and atheism among the >Philosophes was often rather blurred, as is evidenced by Le Rêve de >d'Alembert (written 1769; "The Dream of d'Alembert"), which describes a >discussion between the two "fathers" of the Encyclopédie: the Deist Jean Le >Rond d'Alembert and the atheist Diderot. Diderot had drawn his inspiration >from Shaftesbury, and thus in his early career he was committed to a more >emotional Deism. Later in life, however, he shifted to the atheist >materialist circle of the Baron d'Holbach. When Holbach paraphrased or >translated the English Deists, his purpose was frankly atheist; he >emphasized those portions of their works that attacked existing religious >practices and institutions, neglecting their devotion to natural religion >and their adoration of Christ. The Catholic Church in 18th-century France >did not recognize fine distinctions among heretics, and Deist and atheist >works were burned in the same bonfires. > >English Deism was transmitted to Germany primarily through translations of >Shaftesbury, whose influence upon thought was paramount. In a commentary on >Shaftesbury published in 1720, Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz, a Rationalist >philosopher and mathematician, accepted the Deist conception of God as an >intelligent Creator but refused the contention that a god who metes out >punishments is evil. A sampling of other Deist writers was available >particularly through the German rendering of Leland's work in 1755 and 1756. >H.S. Reimarus, author of many philosophical works, maintained in his >Apologie oder Schutzschrift für die vernünftigen Verehrer Gottes ("Defense >for the Rational Adorers of God") that the human mind by itself without >revelation was capable of reaching a perfect religion. Reimarus did not dare >to publish the book during his lifetime, but it was published in 1774-78 by >Gotthold Ephraim Lessing, one of the great seminal minds in German >literature. According to Lessing, common man, uninstructed and unreflecting, >will not reach a perfect knowledge of natural religion; he will forget or >ignore it. Thus, the several positive religions can help men achieve more >complete awareness of the perfect religion than could ever be attained by >any individual mind. Lessing's Nathan der Weise (1779; "Nathan the Sage") >was noteworthy for the introduction of the Deist spirit of religion into the >drama; in the famous parable of the three rings, the major monotheistic >religions were presented as equally true in the eyes of God. Although >Lessing's rational Deism was the object of violent attack on the part of >Pietist writers and the more mystical thinkers, it influenced such men as >Moses Mendelssohn, a German Jewish philosopher who applied Deism to the >Jewish faith. Immanuel Kant, the most important figure in 18th-century >German philosophy, stressed the moral element in natural religion; moral >principles are not the result of any revelation but originate from the very >structure of man's reason. English Deists, however, continued to influence >German Deism. Witnesses attest that virtually the whole officer corps of >Frederick the Great was infected with Deism and that Collins and Tindal were >favourite reading in the army. (See Shaftesbury, Anthony Ashley Cooper, 3rd >Earl of, Baron Cooper of Pawlett, Baron Ashley of Wimborne St. Giles.) > >By the end of the 18th century, Deism had become a dominant religious >attitude among intellectual and upper class Americans. Benjamin Franklin, >the great sage of the Colonies and then of the new republic, summarized in a >letter to Ezra Stiles, president of Yale College, a personal creed that >almost literally reproduced Herbert's five fundamental beliefs. The first >three presidents of the United States also held Deistic convictions, as is >amply evidenced in their correspondence. "The ten commandments and the >sermon on the mount contain my religion," John Adams wrote to Thomas >Jefferson in 1816. > >Bibliography > >John Leland, A View of the Principal Deistical Writers . . . , 3rd ed., 3 >vol. (1754; also 1837 ed.), the first historical account of Deism; Fritz >Mauthner, Der Atheismus und seine Geschichte im Abendlande, 4 vol. >(1921-23), a complete history; Ernst Cassirer, Die Philosophie der >Aufklärung (1932; Eng. trans., The Philosophy of the Enlightenment, 1951), a >description of Deism and its philosophical background; Harold G. Nicolson, >The Age of Reason (1960), on the nature of 18th-century Rationalism and its >connection with Deism; James Collins, God in Modern Philosophy (1959), a >full history of Deism, here called "theism," from Nicolas of Cusa to >contemporary theological theories; John Orr, English Deism: Its Roots and >Its Fruits (1934); Gotthard V. Lechler, Geschichte des englischen Deismus >(1841), the first full history after the end of Deism; Herbert of Cherbury, >De Veritate (1624; Eng. trans. by Meyrick H. Carre, On Truth, 1937), the >first English translation of the reputedly "first" classic expression of >Deism; Mario M. Rossi, La vita, le opere, i tempi di Edoardo Herbert di >Chirbury, 3 vol. (1947), and Alle fonti del deismo e del materialismo >moderno (1942), two works that describe Herbert's life and Deistic thought >against the background of the history of Deism and the attitude of the >church. David Hume, Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion, 2nd ed. with >suppl. (1947), the beginning of the Deist's self-criticism; Thomas Paine, >The Age of Reason, 3 pt. (1794-1811), the work most influential on the Deism >of common people; John S. Spink, French Free-Thought from Gassendi to >Voltaire (1960), on French Deism; Henry E. Allison, Lessing and the >Enlightenment (1966); Immanuel Kant, Die Religion innerhalb der Grenzen der >blossen Vernunft (1793; Eng. trans., Religion Within the Limits of Reason >Alone, 1947), the classic work of the last stage of German Deism; G.W.F. >Hegel, Early Theological Writings, trans. by Thomas M. Knox and Richard >Kroner (1948), early writings to show Hegel's indebtedness to Deistic >polemics. > > > > > > > > >================================================================ > >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: